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Fishing Talk => Fishing Talk => : spideyjg December 31, 2017, 08:26:34 PM
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So dropped the fuse panes to do some wire chasing and 2 insects came out that may have been worker termites. >:(
So rather that wire chase or install finished pieces, I proceeded to rip out the rest of the rat fur and unscrew all the wood.
Screws were frozen as cement. Busted out the drill with a hammer drill option it worked miracles! It sheared off the tip from 2 #2 phillips bits in the process?! :o
2 screws refused and I broke the head off one and got the other out with vise grips.
Under the fur was lots of sand so that was the perpetual grit everywhere.
Back deck is in 3 sections 2 that are 2.5 X 8 footers to the front and a smaller one across the stern. Hopefully tomorrow I can yank all of it out in case of termites and toss in a sheet of standard wood as a temp floor.
Depends what I find bug wise.
On the bright side the back pieces should be easy compared to the bow and port side.
Jim
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:o
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Hang with it Jim, in the end you'll be rewarded. Years ago I bought a older 22' Glasspar with an I/O, on it's maiden voyage it leaked like a sieve. Ended up cutting the whole transom off and building my own, at the time it felt like the end of the world.....................................but afterwards it provided years of fishing and pulling the kids on tubes and skis ;)
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Lifted both deck halves and saw no termite damage, vacuumed the foam chips from the underside, and began to rip the rest of the rat fur off the starboard rail. That is nasty crap.
The starboard rail attaches to a small ledge and need support that came from some crappy made "rod" holders. That side needs some design changes as the cables and wires all ran along the top.
I'll get pics once the rat fur and dust is cleared. Need suggestions how to do that side to have support, run the cables under, and maybe add storage slots for boxes.
Jim
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You will be calling this boat "Miss Kitty" by the time you are done all pimping her out! 8)
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A few screws, 4 hours >:( >:( >:( >:( :o
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So taking the side off every damn screw going though the nuts were frozen solid. Had to use a dremel to route around the heads, and use the cut off wheels to lop them of and yank the damn shafts out.
Gonna do a rough trace to scribe for the permanent one.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180106_165510.jpg)
On the bright side it is out, the rat fur, sand, salt, glue, filth dust is gone except one single detached panel.
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More work than pleasure for that boat!
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More work than pleasure for that boat!
There isn't a production boat made with what I want otherwise I would have bought one. Everything is made with damn carpet. Bass anglers seem fine with that but this is a blood and guts catfish/saltwater vessel. No place for carpet.
That side will have the cables re routed to be under the rail and the support made with box storage slots.
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So where was I. Found the problem but not the solution to my bow light. There are 2 wires coming out and the issue is the ground wire is open. I would run new wires but cannot find the ends. More on that as time goes on as I rebuild the switch panel.
Anyhow now into redesign phase. This is the starboard side.
The rail rest on a small <1" metal rail and the cutout pieces, craptacular as they were held up the rest of the shelf. Now the quandry is how to do that and provide a channel to run all the cables under the rail and possible slots for tackle storage.
Ideas?
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Hmmm, I'm not sure what that metal ledge you are talking about or where it is located in the picture but it is looking good! I have had my share of headaches over the years fixing up boats and so glad that I don't have to do that anymore. You'll be an expert by the end of this restoration though! LOL
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The ledge is against the hull coming out only about an inch. The plywood is covering it
I'm thinking supports and shelves for storage.
Just wish the weather was warmer to epoxy and paint outside.
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The ledge is against the hull coming out only about an inch. The plywood is covering it
Gotcha!
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Crucial piece starting tomorrow. This is the stern most piece where the batteries, gas tank sit and the bait tank hoses have to run under. Once this is cut I can start modeling the overall stern pieces then get to epoxy and paint.
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Spent all day making sawdust. Thanks to tricks from a cabinet maker actually got stuff done.
The mess.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180205_171528_1.jpg)
Finished both deck sides but need to cut to mate in the center and drill screw holes.
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This is the side ledge again cut to fit the side but screws and other details to finish. Probably will dry fit everything on that side before painting. This was a massive PITA due to all the cabling in the damn way.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180205_172640.jpg)
Also cut the rear deck so all total big progress made on 4 major pieces.
Jim
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Look at you Jim! By the time you complete this project, you'll be an expert in the field! ;)
Looking great boss. Any time frame for the return to the sea?
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No clue on the time frame. I am hoping by this late spring or early summer. I have the bow pieces done and waiting for reassembly day.
My plan is to cut and drill all the remaining wood then set up a tent to epoxy and paint en masse. Doing so in the space I have in the garage isn't realistic and the paint fumes are insane.
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Thankfully kept these pieces to model.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180113_160224.jpg)
So I did trace the side curvature but didn't have the angles right. These old pieces fit perfect on the deck and rail as supports. but didn't match the curve.
So what I envision is 4 supports than are flush with the side and front of the shelf that will have angled shelves for organizer boxes to be stuffed in for the particular trip, catfish, ocean etc.
All total should have 6 spaces to stuff containers in on that side as opposed to these old ones that were utterly useless.
I think I will have to live with the cabling as is.
So progress is the decks are cut just not drilled yet. Need to model the side pieces first before locking it down. WIll probably have a bigger seam slot down the center but that is what caulk is for.
Jim
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Keep the updates coming Jim! I love seeing the progress!
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Will do. I got a big pile of scrap for a fire ring some night.
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So first try to replicate and mesh the sides failed. Going to use scrap pieces of standard plywood for the next experiment.
I wasn't so great at geometry in high school but busting out an electronic protractor top side is 65 degrees and the bottom is 115. That is on top of matching the side contour.
In addition to chopping up all the scrap for firewood I went and remeasured and trace based on 3600 organizer boxes and the next size up. Should have 2 shelves in each for 6 slots total.
Did have to go back to work so can put in about 2 hours a week on it. The looming rain this week doesn't help the cause. :(
Burned up my 40 grit flap disc on the angle grinder and had to make a Home Depot run to get more.
Jim
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You are a machine!
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Not much progress with crap weather synching up with my potential boat work time.
Started sanding the decks and sides so less epoxy coats will be needed.
Now that daylight madness has hit I have some daylight left.
Considering painting the inside away from the gray it is now.
Jim
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I can't wait to see the catfish reborn!
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Laid in the decks to drill holes and check the fit, Carpentry isn't my strong suit so I have a 1"= to about 3/4" gap.
I'm just going to make a long strip to plug it.
Drilled holes is all decks, sanded them down in prep for Epoxy. See the bluish gray sides, I'm on the fence to paint them and what color.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180321_153644.jpg)
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Looking sharp!
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Been months of work travel so not much progress. Did paint the interior hull,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180603_152950.jpg)
Today shaped columns to make shelving on the starboard side for tackle box storage. Spaced the so 2 areas for 3600 size and one for big boxes. Will have a strap on the front so they don't fall out. The back will be contoured to match the hull curve. Today was matching the vertical hull curve on these test pieces. Final pieces need to be cut when the deck and shelf are dry fitted.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180603_152945.jpg)
As a reminder this is the lame crap that was in it. It was useless.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180113_160224.jpg)
Next up will be painting the console and interior sides probably red.
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Like the color choice 8)
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Next up will be painting the console and interior sides probably red.
So it will hide all of the blood marks in the boat like Dead Pool's Super "hero" outfit?
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Next up will be painting the console and interior sides probably red.
So it will hide all of the blood marks in the boat like Dead Pool's Super "hero" outfit?
Nah if I worried about the decks wouldn't be white. ;)
Jim
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Took off the wood panel on the front of the console but the one with the steering wheel is just gonna have to stay. Not sure how to get all that off.
Several rusted screws made it take far longer than expected and a few things that are puzzling as to WTF was this in there for.
Sanded the console and will probably remake the wood panel, epoxy, then paint all together.
Baby steps but progress is progress.
Lowe makes a boat their Poly camo but will not use their Gator Skin floors as an option in any other model and you can't apparently just get that except as a whole shooting match. If I could have just got a hull and transferred over the motor and accessories I would have done it already.
https://www.loweboats.com/fishing-machine/fm-165-poly-camo/
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So have 2 extra days off to get work done. Today was battery placement, will need some wire extending, drilled the captains chair placement, shaped the side supports, and sanded lots of stuff.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180702_163822.jpg)
Tomorrow to dry fit the supports for final placement and do the shelves. Then as the weekend will be far too hot probably epoxy various pieces.
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Looks nice with the replaced switches and fuse holders.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180703_192752.jpg)
Router work under the hood, not so much.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180703_192805.jpg)
Most of today was cutting angled aluminum to act as "feet" for the side panels since they do not lay flat. Angled aluminum is what was on there and gives a fudge factor for the carpentry challenged. Predrilled screw holes but will drill holes in the wood when dry fitted. Also need to look at gas tank and trolling battery placement to have space for the rear rod holder.
Hoping to have at least a few fully done to start the epoxy process.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180703_201559.jpg)
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Most major carpentry is done now fitting it all together. Will probably screw all down to a piece of plywood to layout prior to installation.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180704_162238.jpg)
Figured a cure for the damn Gulp bait jars that leak. a 1.75" hole is perfect. Will make a small horizontal shelf under the slanted just for them.
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The SS Kitty is getting custom fit and a face lift! Looking great Jim!
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Well if you have to tear it all down may as well build it back a better way.
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Nice Jim! 8)
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The tuna were close enough that you could have been catching them in the SS Kitty! (Including triple digit Bluefin!)
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Still making progress. Just assembled my drill press last night which aside from other uses it will be for matching the support holes on the shelves.
Got to lay in the first no problem them Doh! the shelf support on the left doesn't match the holes.
Need to screw them all to a flat surface and match them up. Need to count up how many fasteners I am going to need and the type.
Never had any form of tuna I liked so no big loss. I can't miss what I have never done. When she is finished I'll try for them though.
Jim
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Had 3 days off to get work done. One was sucked up by broken AC, $$$, Did some internal work with the drill press, tried some final dry fitting today and got out there at 9am and had to do a heat retreat by 11. :o
Got the main decks all drilled out and ready for epoxy/paint to begin. Just got to rearrange stuff in the garage.
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Both deck halves are done epoxy, here are the rails in process this weekend. Then onto the smaller pieces and the laundry list of other items.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180811_182852.jpg)
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You are a boat building animal!
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You are a boat building animal!
Took the words out of my mouth........................
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Now the major pieces were done so I had to clean up the garage and get rid of all the leftover bits. Cut and sanded all the shelves as well to get rid of excess wood.
While I was planning on loading the rear deck and fitting The garage was just too much so that came first. Also decided to make actual usable cupholders. The shelves are stacked past the cupholders. I need 3 lengths 12.5, 13.25, and 15.5" based on dry fit measurement.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180819_182251.jpg)
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Cup holders are a must. You need something to hold enough ice while fishing in the I.V. at midnight in 127 degree temperatures! ;D
Looking great Jim!
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Cup holders are a must. You need something to hold enough ice while fishing in the I.V. at midnight in 127 degree temperatures! ;D
Looking great Jim!
Well also sitting on the local lakes too. Many many years ago got heat exhaustion on lake Hodges while the fish were biting. Ever since tweaked everything to ensure I can stay out.
Had some flip down ones but they can't hold much weight. The Thermo flask and those metal vacuum cups pictured are IV tested and approved so will be fine anywhere.
Jim
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Doing final pre assembly of the starboard side in the garage. Pretty crucial that all this line up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180827_215538.jpg)
Pretty good...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180827_215435.jpg)
Pretty not...
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Need to cut more brackets, drill them, place, and drill the wood. Then epoxy time again while the deck can go out and get painted.
Want to slap the guy that said redoing plywood would only take a few weekends.
Jim
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Well to be honest Jim, I think you are doing a whole hell of a lot more than he had in mind. You sure are putting a lot of thought and planning into it.
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Well to be honest Jim, I think you are doing a whole hell of a lot more than he had in mind. You sure are putting a lot of thought and planning into it.
No kidding! Jim has been above and beyond with this project. It's going to be a hell of a fish killer when it's all done!
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Here is another enhancement.
This "bench" in the back covered the batteries and gas tank along with battery charger. I would sit the Ice chest up here but it bowed down.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180218_161731.jpg)
So built 2 "I" beam stands for additional support that may also hold a bod holder each. Too many things to pray line up to pre drill the bench so I'm on the fence of if it is secured to the deck, do I need to secure to the bench? The only time it comes into play is heavy loads.
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Pettit calls this Fire Red. I call it blood camo
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180903_135748.jpg)
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Shelves spaced
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Looking great Jim! That is looking like a catfish killer more and more every day!
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Filled a few excess holes in the wood with filler this weekend, broke down the side shelving after labeling it all, fit the rear deck and bench. So lots of epoxying this week.
Dropper the console to try and copy the holes and take a stab at removing the steering. No dice, I think it is permanently frozen from steering wheel to hub, mounting bolts to console, are all corroded AF. The same type is on sale at West Marine so I will measure for length and pitch the whole steering system that is in there.
Will prep the console and let a boat shop do the actual install.
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Any updates?
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Bit puzzled on the steering. The existing one is 13 foot cable but measuring 13 is short. Got to clarify that. Haven't bothered to try and yank the wheel again.
Epoxying 3 pieces today then a third Wednesday/Thursday then all non skid pieces will be sealed and ready to paint. I need to set up the tent in the back yard for those.
Crossing fingers that painting of those will be done by the end of the month. The other smaller pieces I could paint an sit in the back of the truck to cure.
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Different pieces. Tomorrow switch these to the last one that will need Non Skid. If I hit good traffic and hit first coat of epoxy I can do the second before going to bed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180918_214501.jpg)
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Going to be one sweet ride when you finish.
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Bit of a milestone. This is the last major piece with the last coat of epoxy and once cured all 5 major pieces move outside for non skid painting starting this weekend.
Get a lot of garage space back when this happens also.
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Wow! Getting close!
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Won't be done until Friday...
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Final coat is on! This is basically the whole floor and sides. Still lots to do but a lot of it I can have a boat shop do.
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So been on the east coast the last week and just got back. New steering system arrived so now I can work on my replacement control console. I can't get any of the old system out so had to get everything.
After this is literally counting fasteners and sizes to have everything for rebuild.
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It's going to be a new boat soon!
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It's going to be a new boat soon!
Almost. Still has the same engine but the interior is custom.
Jim
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Gotta charge the drill batteries. All 316 stainless hardware
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Significant paint completion point. Gonna give a week for it to fully harden then actual major assembly can begin.
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Jim, I almost feel like you've been working on the Kitty Killer for 2 or 3 years now! lol
It's going to look bad ass when you are all done and everything is going to be exactly where you want it to be. Looking good brother! Just in time for the Catfish Contest!
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I have off an on but with day job, work travel, side business, family obligations, house repair, etc.... I have not put much time in.
Those blue pieces are the starboard supports for the shelving. Once they have hardened I can mount the captains chair, lay it in, mount the supports, and assemble the decks. Shelves need to be drilled and painted still but putting that off until supports are permanent.
Once everything a boat shop won't do is done, off it goes.
(https://oimg.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20180902_222043.jpg)
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So got the decks in, side pieces, all that has to happen on those is screwing them down. Got a gear puller and finally got the steering wheel of and stripped the stuff off it.
Now have to build up the new control console and paint it.
Debating putting the fish finder on the very to of the metal console rather than on the wood.
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So got the decks in, side pieces, all that has to happen on those is screwing them down. Got a gear puller and finally got the steering wheel of and stripped the stuff off it.
Now have to build up the new control console and paint it.
Debating putting the fish finder on the very to of the metal console rather than on the wood.
The S.S. Kitty will RISE AGAIN!
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Little snag on the console is the gauge needs a 3 3/8 hole and have to order that size hole saw. Home Depot doesn't have one.
You are the boat expert Tom, think the finder on the top of the metal console is better than on the slanted control panel?
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Little snag on the console is the gauge needs a 3 3/8 hole and have to order that size hole saw. Home Depot doesn't have one.
You are the boat expert Tom, think the finder on the top of the metal console is better than on the slanted control panel?
It would be better as long as you can secure it properly on the metal. Otherwise the wood is more forgiving even with shock abrasion from running on bouncy water.
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It would be better as long as you can secure it properly on the metal. Otherwise the wood is more forgiving even with shock abrasion from running on bouncy water.
IT is going on top. Use to be a PITA to read where it was. Sat in the captains chair to see where was best. On the top looks perfect. However got to get the steering wheel in the mix to lock it down to a spot.