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Re: Paddy's Guide to Affordable Big Bait Heavers
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2015, 12:34:50 PM »
Decide on a purchase yet Mr.paddy?

Im still waiting for the Great Latemeria's input before I can make a decision😝😝
Probably gonna go with the Battallion 25/50.. You got me convinced on the bigger rod, plus I can get a smokin deal on it.  Gonna wait til Black Friday/cyber Monday and see if i can get an even better deal.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 05:03:43 PM »
Thanks for all the great input guys. Keep it coming:)

I considered putting the breakaways on the list Chris. But theyre about $250 not including tax/shipping so they dont quite fit the "affordable" bracket, tried to keep it in the $100-$200 range including tax/shipping.  What the hell is gram!? This is 'murica!!!😜😝😜😝😜

grams are usually what you'll find the better sputniks listed as and are more precise in weight than weights measured in OZ. I have several 6oz sputniks that weigh within 10 grams of each other while the four 150's I weighed are within 2.

I've found a little extra money on fishing gear is usually money well spent. ill buy discount sweatshirts, orange tag steaks and generic soda but when it comes to most gear, its probably worth it and I can say the breakaway rods are fairly priced for what your getting.

also check out the Dblue rods.
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Re: Paddy's Guide to Affordable Big Bait Heavers
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2016, 12:40:36 PM »
I think I have to sticky this post.  It has some great options and reviews of the rods and I had to share this with a few people lately.  I think I'll sticky it until we could get some reel reviews also and I'll pair them up as part of the the ultimate gear guide for SoCal Surf Sharking.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2017, 05:21:06 AM »
I think I have to sticky this post.  It has some great options and reviews of the rods and I had to share this with a few people lately.  I think I'll sticky it until we could get some reel reviews also and I'll pair them up as part of the the ultimate gear guide for SoCal Surf Sharking.

Great idea to make this a sticky.

What's eating at me is the 13.5' Hatteras Heaver/Alua rods. You all know me. I love a bargain. I've fished Ugly Stiks with Okuma spinners forever. Caught a lot of big fish on them.

But... The handwriting is on the wall, got to make the change to conventional. However, my research is telling me if you want to really chunk 8 and bait the furthest, it's looking like you need a more expensive 13.5' rod and should seriously consider going with the reel lower on the butt. Obviously the 12' rods work, but if you want to take your game really up you're looking at needing to use a Hatteras/South African cast. To do it safely, you're looking at a $350 to $450 rod plus a $150 to $250 reel, depending on the size of fish you want to cover and how much line/drag capacity you feel comfortable with. 

I've talked to some of my east coast Carolina surf fishing buddies, and this is the set up they all use eventually. Honestly, drones are a pain in the ass. I want to be able to get a big chunk out far enough manually to bring a 10' TaxMan into play and have enough capacity and fire power to land it without killing it or myself. There are bigger out there, but to get those requires a manually deployed bait and a real shark rod and reel.

I've heard of someone fishing the 13.5' reel low combo, and I really want to hookup with the guy so I can get some first hand intel before I pull the trigger. I'm also getting used to only using one rod on the beach, so if I have to spend some extra for the ultimate combo, so be it. I also know that there's going to be a bit of a learning curve before I can actually cast the thing, but you got to lose your cherry sometime.

I think you could break this list into 3 parts, assuming all prices are retail. Rod/Reel/Line combos for under $200, under $450, and over $450.

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Re: Paddy's Guide to Affordable Big Bait Heavers
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2017, 07:31:00 AM »
Just for the sake of argument.
Why not use the Senator and heavy stick and just get a used kayak if you don't want to use the drone?
Seems like it's been working well for the east coast guys for a long time and there's no way you can get anywhere near that kind of range with a cast.

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2017, 10:01:35 AM »
You arenít going to get any distance casting a bait big enough for a shark of the size youíre looking for. Like Chad said, just paddle out a bait. A 6/0 or 9/0 reel will suffice.
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Re: Paddy's Guide to Affordable Big Bait Heavers
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2017, 07:32:55 AM »
Just for the sake of argument.
Why not use the Senator and heavy stick and just get a used kayak if you don't want to use the drone?
Seems like it's been working well for the east coast guys for a long time and there's no way you can get anywhere near that kind of range with a cast.

Unfortunately a kayak isn't going to work real well with my 'Stang :-[

But you're right, if you want to get serious about 10' plus models, you're going to have to paddle the baits out and use the shark stick and senator. But unlike the east coast/gulf guys, we have surf most of the time. And paddling out baits at night doesn't sound appealing.

The 13.5' is more about the ultimate in distance/payload. Obviously we've all caught a lot of sharks with different gear, so it's really about finding the Holy Grail and damn the cost ;D
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Re: Paddy's Guide to Affordable Big Bait Heavers
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2017, 07:41:46 AM »
You arenít going to get any distance casting a bait big enough for a shark of the size youíre looking for. Like Chad said, just paddle out a bait. A 6/0 or 9/0 reel will suffice.

As I said in my reply to Chad, the 13.5' isn't about catching what I really want. That is going to take a bait paddled out and a shark stick/senator. It's really about the Holy Grail that will give the ultimate in payload/distance for targeting what we are now from the surf. More like I can throw a half mac and 8 oz 10 yards further than what everybody else can do with a 12'. Or throw a mac head with 4 oz 20 yards further. Just looking for that last bit of competitive edge even if it costs more.

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