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Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:52:22 AM »
Ok I just wanted to post my version of the standard pulley rig, just up-sized with 7 gills and soupies in mind.

The basics of the pulley rig consist of in order, Sinker, bait clip, running line with beads and free running swivel, swivel, leader, hook. These are the components I have been using.



I have been using "Gemini Splashdown" bait clips lately and really like that they positively lock until splashdown which prevents your weight and bait from separating in mid cast. Other components include 500lb swivels, 10 mm beads and 12/0 or 13/0 Eagle Claw L2004 circle hooks. I have found these to be excellent quality for a great price.

Generally speaking, most directions tell you to use a plain swivel as your free running swivel, however, I have found that having mono fold over just the swivel caused a severe crimp in the line from casting and always gives me doubts about having a weak point. So I came up with my solution, which is the item in the upper right above. I take a size small thimble and swivel and crimp together with heavy mono. This gives my "pulley" a wider pivot point that prevents the line from developing the kink.

Here is a picture of an assembled rig. I am using 125lb mono here and 270lb 49 strand uncoated cable. Of course everything is double crimped, with shrink wrap on the  leader side crimps. A few important points about the pulley rig. The sinker weight must be greater than bait weight and the Mono section must be longer than the leader section.  I have been using a leader length of approximately 3 feet and a mono section of around 4 1/2 feet. When folded and ready for casting this gives me around a 4 to 4 1/2 foot drop from rod tip to sinker which works well for me.



You may have noticed a small mono loop attached to the hook. The reason for it is due to the Gemini clip. the clip is only designed for light wire hooks up to about 2/0, so the mono loop allows me to clip any size hook I want to the clip. I use 60lb mono for this and it is attached to hook eye, not the leader loop.

Here is the rig, ready to cast.



Closeups of the pulley section and the hook / clip section.





The basic principle benefits of the pulley rig are 2 fold:
  • Increased Distance and Castability - Keeping the weight and bait together streamlines everthing resulting in a longer cast.
  • Decreased Sinker Snag - While fighting a fish, the nature of the rig pulls the sinker tight and in-line reducing(not preventing) the chance of the sinker snagging on bottom debris. (The 3-way rig and the Clip-down running rig both leave the sinker leg dangling which increases the likelihood of the sinker snagging bottom during the fight)

The primary negative(for some) of the pulley rig is that it works best with Circle hooks which do not require "setting the hook". The pulley rig would require tightening of the pulley system prior to setting the hook and could result in a fish dropping the bait. On a side note, probably not such a big deal with any of the fish make the reel scream, but might be more troublesome for those more finicky fish that just sit there chowing down instead of taking off.

I recently made up some "stealth" versions for my next trip.  These include coated 49strand 270lb cable and taped hooks to supposedly reduce the "electrical signature" of the metal in salt water.

Enjoy...

Ron
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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2016, 06:04:46 AM »
Nice write up.

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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2016, 06:40:11 AM »
Great write up Ron! Thank you for the thimble idea, Ive been trying to find a better way then a running barrel swivel for the pulley for a while now. I see you crimp your mono but I still might suggest adding a soft bead between the hard bead and the crimps on the sinker end of the pulley line to cushion the hard beads conact with the top of the crimp. When your hooked up that point gets the brunt of the force put on it. Be sure to use hard beads that do not have a sharp or jagged edge on the outer edge of their isnide hole as that is a major pressure point as well.
I like the ability to make the hook wire leader and mono pulley sections in such a wide range of possible lenghts to fit various conditions or structure to determine where you want your bait to be in relation to the bottom. If you want it to rest on the bottom, make the lengths close to one another or if you want your bait suspended off the bottom there's no reason you couldnt make the wire length only a foot and the pulley line 7 feet. One other thing Ive been adding lately is a round sequin a few inches above the hook on the wire leader, with a crimp to keep it from sliding further up the wire. It acts as a bait stop which I found was needed because sometimes I found my bait up the wire leader up to a foot or so, being caused at splash down by the impact with the water that split second before or similtanius to when  the clip realeses the hook.

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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2016, 09:01:06 PM »
Looks like a fancy 3-way.
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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2016, 09:33:21 PM »
Very cool! Great write up, thanks Ron!

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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2016, 01:25:35 AM »
Very cool.  Would you mind if I made this an article for the website?  I would love to throw up new and different rigs and think this would be a great addition.
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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2016, 02:33:38 AM »
Not at all.

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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2016, 09:48:07 AM »
Cool, Thanks!
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Re: Fish Jerk's Pulley Rig (Grinner style)
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 05:11:20 PM »
I made a permanent page out of this on the main website for all to learn and enjoy.  Thanks Ron!
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